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Black Great Pyrenees
It always amazes that there are many who ridicule the Black Great Pyrenees and ones who fancy they do not exist; and will vocalize and downgrade without even inquiring of the one who OWNS the animals. They try to deride them saying they are part newfie or part Border collie or some other "mutt" cross. People say that a true pyr could not have black, but I am here to stand and say it can; and not hide it.
First off this is an excerpt that was shared with me about The Great Pyr with the Black, it is more than the Badger, or blaireau, or apricot, the mixture of brown, black, gray, apricot and white, is necessary to maintain the size and strength of this truly beautiful dog.
taken From “THE WORLD ENCYCLOPEDIA OF DOGS”
Color: The assumption that the pure bred Pyrenean must be white is erroneous. The permitted colors are all-white or mainly white with markings of badger, gray or varying shades of tan, mainly on the head, or at the root of the tail. Badger, or blaireau, as it is called, is an admixture of brown, black, gray and white hairs and is common in puppies, but generally fades on maturity. Patches of pure black are not admitted in the show ring, although black and white dogs sometimes appear in correctly color-bred litters. The desired jet black nose, lips and eye rims still cannot be maintained in successive generations of all-white dogs without breeding back to the colored mountain type. It is noticeable that not only pigment but increased size and vigor become apparent when color is introduced into the all-white strain, and in spite of the lack of scientific support for the fact, all-white breeding tends to produce progressively smaller Pyreneans.
Standards: The first Pyrenean Standard to be generally accepted was laid down by the Reunion des Amateurs de Chiens Pyreneens, shortly after the First World War. When breeding began in America in the early 1930's, the French Standard was translated and accepted as it stood, but in 1935 it was replaced by a new one which contained a significant number of omissions and alterations, one of which, to the detriment of the breed, lowered the minimum height by 2 cms. Another alteration included the head, with the shorter muzzle favored in England and America, but which is not acceptable in France, where the longer foreface is considered correct. It was the American Standard which, a few years later, was adopted in its entirety by the Pyrenean Mountain Dog Club of Great Britain, apparently without further reference to the original French translation. Essentially, however, all the Standards call for a dog of great size (27" to 32" for dogs, 25" to 29" for bitches), strongly built, but with a certain elegance and a kindly disposition. He should have a thick double coat, with a fine white undercoat and a long, flat outer coat of a coarser hair. Black on nose and eyerims and an unbroken black mouth line are also necessary. In the all-white dog good pigment would ideally be linked with black pads, nails and palate. Double dew-claws on the hind legs are a distinguishing feature, and their removal constitutes disqualification in the show ring.
I know it is considered by some as not acceptable and something to be “ashamed”. I’ve been told of those that will put the puppies born with black down at whelping so as to not admit they were born; goat or dog, cat or sheep, if it doesn’t conform to standard; hide what you get, do not admit it, or you will be blackballed by one society or anther. It was through a prejudiced mindset as this against the black pyr that they were almost wiped out; just as with the true Colored Angora. The color in the Angora was not accepted, so anything with color in the angora, as anything with black born in a litter of pyrs, was put down at birth so as not to upset the "standard". But now, there are people getting COLOR from white to white breedings of Angoras, because they selected for the ones that carried color. Selective breeding is brining the color back in the Angora; and it is now not so unaccepted and color is even desired; so people are not hiding it anymore. But, the moral, the pure true colored angoras were almost wiped out! But due to refusal to give to a prejudiced mindset, it has made a comeback. The same can be true of the Beautiful Regal Black Great Pyrenees.
Great Pyrenees is a French dog, and in the beginning over two
decades, over 20 years ago, we had imported Great Pyrenees from an
old and established kennel. As time went on the lady passed that
owned the kennel. During the time of our relationship she passed
valued information onto us that would continue to enhance and make
us strive to learn and know more of this regal animal. It was from
the wonderful woman who bred our two original girls and who Showed
her dogs And Worked her dogs around the world that we learned our
basics of Great Pyrenees and their original breed temperament and
type. Our current Great Pyrenees are, yes, not AKC by our choice; we
choose now to not place AKC Pyrenees with my stock. Does that offend
some that I say it? Sorry, but there are things I know about AKC Pyrenees
that make me feel this way. It is also from her that we
learned why we would later choose to Not purchase AKC dogs for Our
Endeavor. Our first two
represented the Original Ideal of both American and French Great
Pyrenees. From this we learned what to look for and what we were
later to breed for. This is a French imported dog, so our decision
was to stick to the French original old world style of Dog.
Have we seen registered black great pyrs? Yes! With Pedigrees? YES!
Our lines we have been working with for the past 15 years. We have looked for and bred for the black in ADDITION to the white, brown badger and wolf greys. If you wish to see pictures of a few different styles of the pyr, type in Pyrenean Mountain Dog in an image search engine. You will see from the very refined head to the “American” blocky head. America calls them Great Pyrenees, but in other countries they are still referred to as Pyrenean Mountain Dogs or Montagne des Pyrénées which is Great Pyrenese in French, and do a search and translate the page. On just a simple search we found sites where they are showing off their Pyrs; their Patous, Grand pyrénéens, Pyrenean Mountain Dogs that are from white to Badger, or blaireau, or apricot to, yes even the black and white. Do research on the LGD breeds, you will find the breeds were created in a strain of mountains and valleys, that were traveled by Nomads and Gypsies. On one side they created the Pyrenean Mountain Dog on the other the the Pyrenean mastiff and so forth across Europe as people and tribes traveled. Some of the areas enhanced the black coloration of the breed, some it was bred down. These are the lines the Pyrenean Mountain Dog comes from, to say that black is in no way shape or form part of the breed, takes all it’s history out of the equation. Look at the just the Landseer, the Pyrenean mastiff, or find other breeds who came form the same region as the Great Pyrenees. You will see the color is there in the LGD lines from those regions; so it is not out of thought that it IS truly part of the Pyrenean Mountain Dog. Selective breeding can enhance the black and white, as selective breeding brought out the white.
Our pyrs and I thank you for the interest in them.
The Black and White Great Pyrenees is a site to behold and we are privileged to have it as part of my breeding program.